Specialized Enduro 29 2014

S5M

Posted on 8/12/2013, 18:01

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Ieri ho provato la expert con l'xx01 1x11... confermata la coperta corta... quasiquasi me tengo 'sto 2x10s, monto il tele (ks arretrato) + cambio ruote con roval traverse...

www.mtb-forum.it/community/forum/showthread.php?t=278550 http://forums.mtbr.com/specialized/roval-c...els-756250.html www.sicklines.com/2013/11/27/ohlins...vicing-details/

Ulteriori numeri:

10s33/11 = 30/10
vs
11s32x10 = 35x11, (troppo!?) corto rispetto al 44x12 ( = 40/11)
11s32x42 = 22x29, significa salire senza i 2 + corti, 32-36

CFR:

2x10s22x36 = 1x11s26x42 = 1x11s32x9/52 (!!!), con un (im?)probabile/proponibile 9-12-15-18-22-26-30-34-40-46-52...

E pensare che con cinelli grivel 1986 2x6s48/38x11/32 si volava su quelle stesse rampe dove attualmente si arranca con le 29er 22x36...

38x32 = 22x19 = 24x20 = 32x27 (!!!)

NB: La grivel oem era 3x6s48/38/28x11/32, shimano deore biopace (corone ovali). Da tripla a doppia eliminando la corona da 28t, troppo corta all'epoca...

28x32 = 22x25 = 32x37

Godersi la enduro comp 2x10 +/- così com'è (+ arretramento sella 20 mm + tele?)? o cambiarla con? Enduro expert 1x11? BMC trailfox 2x10? RM instinct 999 1x11? NB: Di nx1 di queste c'è il frameset sul mercato italiano... Qualc1 sa se/come si può trasformare un fox propedal in bloccabile? Sostituendo il corpo dell'ammo??

RM instinct 999MSL size M, 130/130, ammo bloccabile + sostituz sella/reggisella (con ks arretrato, sebbene il pur limitato gioco radiale dei telescopici me li stia facendo odiare)...

Asap proverò a simulare l'1x11 con la enduro 2x10 sui 50 km con saliscendi + rampe lunghe al 20% provando a usare fino al 22x28 ( = 32x42) ignorando 22x32 e 22x36... www.bikes.com/en/bikes/instinct/2014#/technology

2x10s9/36: www.sicklines.com/2010/09/17/2010-e...totype-goodies/ www.pinkbike.com/u/richardcunningha...ssette-Cog.html www.vitalmtb.com/forums/All-Mountai...zed-Enduro,5766

www.shimano.com/publish/content/glo...-S.-type-..html

In quanto al telescopico cb è bene sapere che:

www.singletracktorino.it/test-lunga...ml#.UqecAMV385Y
www.pinkbike.com/news/Crankbrother-...ested-2012.html

We talked to Crankbrothers' Clark Brewster, the lead developer on the Kronolog project, regarding our concerns about their new telescoping post. Brewster was quick to point out that the Kronolog employs an O-ring atop the post's piston that acts as a top out bumper, and that removing it will result in the audible 'kunk' that would let us know that the saddle is at full height. The modification is quite simple, and the same job can be performed on the damper piston to allow the rebound speed to be increased as well. The bigger issue at hand, though, is the scoring we experienced on the post's upper tube. The grooves that have been machined into the post from the factory are, Brewster says, "purely cosmetic and they are there to hide the marks that naturally occur with use. Over time, the marks form a nice patina, but we found that without the cosmetic grooves, the marks don't look very good." Brewster continues, "The grooves however, are a good indicator of wear. If there are no grooves, it means that the diameter of the circular section has changed, and some sort of bad wear is occurring." This brings us to the premature wear inflicted to our Kronolog that, Brewster says, is down to an incorrect setup.

The Kronolog's relatively simple twin steel locking plates either must be fully open to allow the post's upper tube to cycle up and and down freely, or fully closed against the upper tube in order to hold it in place. It's when the rings are only partially activated that damage to the upper tube will occur, says Brewster. "Please note that during our ride testing, we have posts that have over 2000 hours of riding on them," he continues "and without the shaving or slipping that you experienced. Fundamentally, the system works and is robust. When the system is adjusted correctly (with the proper amount of lever play), and the parts are made correctly, then the post should operate extremely well." Brewster puts the blame for our post's damage on either faulty cable tension setup or a burr on the cable that prevented it from releasing properly, and also admits that 3 - 4mm of lever free play is ideal instead of their original number of 2 - 3mm.

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"Hello Sean, I need to replace with a 10s9/36t cassette the oem 10s11/36 cassette (oem rear hub is Specialized Hi Lo disc, 4x-sealed cartridge bearings, 12mm thru-axle, 142+ spacing, 32h) of a Specialized Enduro 29 2014. Is the Canfield 9t Micro Drive suitable? Can you suggest me how / where can I have a custom craft of all the necessary components?"

Sean Gollub wrote: Hi- Thanks for the email. To run CANFIELD 9t system on your bike you need:

142 x12mm 9t hub + 10 speed micro cogs

You also have to use a sram 1050 or 1070 cassette. (11-36) This will allow you to mix and match and customize to make a 9-36 cassette. We are having sales on our 9t hubs right now. Let me know some of your other questions.

Sean Gollub
Canfield Brothers Bikes
2001 Masonry Way #103
Bellingham, WA 98226
801-548-2556
Skype: canfieldbikes

La' dove ho provato la enduro 29 1x11, dicono che "x montare 2x10s36/22 al posto del 33/22 non basta il long cage ma serve anche il deragliatore x la tripla..." e cmq anche 2x10s36/22x11/36 sarebbe semx troppo corto in allungo... invece 2x10s33/22x9/36 è xfetto, veramente la soluzione ideale.

Ancòra de rapportibus, longibus, cortibus, presentibus et futuribus:

2x11s50/34x11/28t road (short cage) 50x11=55x12=46x10=41x9
2x11s52/36x11/28t road (short cage) 52x11=57x12=47x10=43x9
2x10s33/22x9/36t offroad (mid cage) 32x9=43x12=39x11=36x10

Da ciò conseguirànno:

2x11s40/24x9/28t road (short cage) 40x9=53x12=49x11=44x10; 24x28=22x26=36x42=34x40=31x36
2x11s33/22x9/36t offroad (mid cage)

http://service.specialized.com/collateral/...ility-Guide.pdf

Hi Sean. So, the difference between 142 x 12 mm and 142+ x 12 mm hub is 2 mm. Can you confirm to me that the Canfield 142 x 12 mm 10s9t system is 100% compatible with the frame of my Specialized Enduro 29 2014 and with the oem 32h Roval 29 alloy rims, and that there won't be any problem with the functioning of the oem rear derailleur (SRAM X9 10s Type 2, mid cage)?

http://service.specialized.com/collateral/...ility-Guide.pdf

Also, oem cassette is SRAM PG1030 10s11/36t, with 11-13-15-17-19-22-25-28-32-36t cogs. Would you suggest me to keep it or replace it with a SRAM PG1070 10s11/36t cassette with same cogs and then mix it with the Canfield 9t Microdrive (9-11-13-16t)?

http://canfieldbrothers.com/store/index.ph...ve-package.html
http://canfieldbrothers.com/store/index.ph...te-package.html
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Hi- Thanks for the email and info. It was very helpful. It does not look like our hub with work with your frame or your direct pull spokes. You would have to build up a new rear wheel, but Specialized has a new standard that looks like it has a custom system. It will not fit in your frame.
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Hi Sean, I would definitely build a new rear wheel if that would solve the problem. Oem Roval rims have standard 32h spokes though, with no direct pull, so they are compatible with your hub, aren't they? Are you 100% sure that your hub won't work with the Enduro 29 frame and rear derailleur after the installation of a proper spacer?
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Hi - We are not 100% sure it will work so there fore we can not recommend it. We have not tried it in a 2014 specialized frame. Sorry but you are in un-chartered waters on this one. We have ZERO experience with this.

Hi Sean. Waters seem quite chartered in this case. ;-)

Seriously, quoting from http://service.specialized.com/collateral/...ility-Guide.pdf :

"Hub fits all 142 frames, including Specialized frames with 142+ spacing"

Therefore, according to Specialized your 142 x 12 mm 10s9t hub is compatible with my frame, am I right?

One more question: do you confirm that your 142 x 12 mm 10s9t hub is 32h?
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Yes it is 32h. If your frame will accept 142 hubs then it should fit. Why Specialized felt the need to call it +2 is beyond us. Worse case scenario, your shifting is sub-par.

http://singletrackworld.com/2013/12/canfie...apreo-cassette/
http://forums.mtbr.com/29er-bikes/somethin...ros-738409.html
http://forums.mtbr.com/canfield/micro-driv...ide-767346.html
http://forums.mtbr.com/canfield/help-9t-setup-888938.html
http://forums.mtbr.com/fat-bikes/small-sin...ml#post10287582
www.mtb-news.de/news/2011/11/24/can...be-micro-drive/
www.flickr.com/photos/mat7nueve/9381353571/in/photostream/

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Hi Sean. I am very disappointed in letting you know that today, 2014.01.16, from a phone call with bikestore.it - roma, I became aware that after your components have been assembled by the same bikestore.it - roma, with persisting problems of chain skipping the 9t cog, a tooth of the same 9t cog was broken during road test. You'll receive asap the confirmation of such very bad occurrence by bikestore.it - roma. In the meanwhile I am asking you: what now?

Hi. Can you send some pics of this? For 9t set up it is critical that you back out your b-tension to get more chain wrap. Also, quick links have been known to cause 9t skipping issues. Run the chain without a quick link.

Hi Sean. Quoting from Luciano, owner of bikestore.it - roma: "I cannot understand the recommendation by Sean Gollub of using a non-SRAM chain, that is a chain without a quick link, since the Canfield 9t cogs are exclusively SRAM-compatible". Would you please explain that to me? Also I need to know how to get a replacement from you asap and how to avoid any other similar problem.

Hi, I didn't say use a NON sram chain. I said try using it with out the quick link. The quick link will cause it to skip under load. Or try a KMC chain. They make all of SRAM's chains.

Hi, What address do you want us to send to? The cogs are thin, if your chain is skipping or not set up correctly, stuff breaks. Try not running a quick link as this has been known to skip on some suspension designs.

Hi Sean. You can send to the same address of your last shipment. Luciano still cannot understand how to run a SRAM chain without a quick link. He is also asking if the system would run better with a SHIMANO chain than with a KMC chain.

You can install a chain without a quick link...... It's been done for a 100 years.....

Sean, according to Luciano of bikestore.it, the problem is NOT to install A chain without a quick link, but to install a SRAM chain without a quick link. Go tell him!

Sean, I am letting you know that today 2014.02.10 I received the USPS package from CHRIS CANFIELD (ship date 2014.01.21). Inside the package I found a WORN OUT Canfield 9t Microdrive (9-11-13-16t). Wasn't the replacement supposed to be BRAND NEW??? I am extremely disappointed.

PS: More precisely: WORN OUT and DENTED.

SRAM GX 2015 2x11s 36/24 x 10/42 (10-12-14-16-18-21-24-28-32-36-42)

36/10 = 44/12.2
24/42 = 22/38.5

SRAM EAGLE 2016 1x12s 36 x 10/50 (10-12-14-16-18-21-24-28-32-36-42-50)

36/10 = 44/12.2
36/50 = 22/30.6

Cosa ne pensate del procore?

Edited by S5M - 25/4/2016, 17:56